Friday, April 10, 2015

Who is afraid of whom: A dialogue with Krishnan Kartha


Krishnan Kartha who is afraid of whom? !!!

Ac.Menon There is no fear once the vision of universal oneness is attained.

Krishnan Kartha universal oneness? it is not something to be attained, but something forgotten

Ac  Menon ?

Krishnan Kartha here neither the tiger nor the monk experiences universal oneness.He is brave because it is a tamed one. The tiger is brave because the ochre clad men had been kind to them so far

Krishnan Kartha One hails from universal oneness. He splits himself to many and the cosmos emerges. It is only a homecoming for one who realises the lost empire

Ac Menon i agree with the vision of lost empire. But all ochre clads cannot afford to do it

Krishnan Kartha :the vision is NOT synonymous with the colour of the attire

Krishnan Kartha :in fact no one reaches there like that.During their search they find it, or discover it.

Ac Menon s. "J

Krishnan Kartha whether dressed up or not, one has to be in steady and unwavering search and inner analysis.

Krishnan Kartha    when one gets dressed up or labelled ,half the curiosity loses, and a sigh takes over,..

Ac  Menon vision n attire. s. Adi Shankara says, "Jnanam Sannyasa Lakshanam"

Krishnan Kartha               He has also said that " udara nimitham bahukritha vesham"

Krishnan Kartha            We have understand that in a different manner

Ac  Menon Right..

Krishnan Kartha                      Jnanam is attained through efforts to become a sannyasin.. So a sannyasi emerges when he attains Jnana.Then we can say that Jnana is the lakshana or sign of a sanyasin

Krishnan Kartha                  I am putting it up like this; Possession- Saturation - Renunciation and Realisation. This is what I have found.

Krishnan Kartha                         It may not be seen in this order in any text

Ac  Menon                              What is your view on Rennunciation ?

Krishnan Kartha       A mind will be in a stage of possession first. It will crave for each matter of interest. One by one it will get saturated in each object or vishaya. On that object it goes on in possession for some more time, but in a mood of saturation only , without craving,. Then slowly it renounses the object altogether. Even then there may be possession of that object.But with renounced feeling. At last it realises. It realises that the possession as well as renunciation are equal to a balanced mind. It cannot be attached to possession nor to renunciation... It cannot detached to possession nor to possession. A Non attachment develops. Neither AaSAKTHI nor VIRAKTHI but ANAASAKTHI.

Krishnan Kartha      It must be understood that while the mind is saturated in one object, it may be in a possession state on another object

Krishnan Kartha     when the mind renounces one object, it will be in a saturated state on another object and possession state on yet another object.

Krishnan Kartha     So aggregate realisation comes to the mind in the end of a steady analysis.

Ac Menon    s

Krishnan Kartha :    This is something reveled to me in March 1988.

Ac  Menon    i see...?

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