Dr Blessy Paul Manavalan: may b people like me!!!!!i think it maybe by the people who believes in 'DWAITHA and VISISTADWAITHA' phylosophy,to become perfect as'jesus'( ie; u should b perfect as ur father in heaven) told nd did.wats ur opinion
Baiju Nt: I didn't understand what Blessy was asking, but I suppose she was asking about my opinion on what Jesus said "Be perfect, as my Father in heaven is perfect." This is indeed a complicated statement and I in fact don't know what Jesus really ...meant! The thing which confuses me is whether Jesus told this in a mere ethical sense or ontological sense!!!! Anyway, personally, I don't want to become perfect as God, because what makes me what I am is the limitations that I am born with. In other way, I am happy in the way I am. So, there is no matter of "becoming" something even like God. On the other hand, realization of God (Truth) is entirely different scenario, where one experiences the Ultimate Being. Now, another interesting dimension of realization is that with this most desirable experience, every Yogi is instantly invited to the status of Perfection and to share the unlimited happiness with God and himself. In this sense, at the moment one gets spiritual enlightenment, he is uplifted to a higher self within himself where the barriers of the material world (space and time) are broken, making him in "perfect" communion with God. Now, I feel this may be what Jesus was also trying to say with his statement "Be perfect as your father in heaven". Possibly, Jesus was inviting all of us to enjoy the fruits of spiritual realization that ultimately gives path to perfection and happiness
Krishnan Kartha said, Baiju, " what makes you what you are ,are the limitations you are born with". So you are "made". "made" out of something which you are presently not.You have "become" baiju and the "being" was lost. Returning to the "BEing" is the spiritual journey. Here you are not becoming God or anything, but you are returning to your original identity.That is the oneness.Yoga.Satori. Meditation.Sayoojya etc etc.
I liked your sentence "every Yogi is instantly invited to the status of Perfection and to share the unlimited happiness with God and himself".That is true. That is an invitation.It is never claimed or desired by the yogi. It is a gift from ...the Nature.The Yogi may accept or reject it. The yogi is fond of playing as a simple human being instead of being the "God" like a father who will play with his son coming down to the age level of the son.
Baiju, I remembered Saibaba's words that "Being is lost in becoming" when yestreday we discussed about Jis's question on marking the cross on our body.The details of the discussion can be posted seperate
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Baiju Nt: I didn't understand what Blessy was asking, but I suppose she was asking about my opinion on what Jesus said "Be perfect, as my Father in heaven is perfect." This is indeed a complicated statement and I in fact don't know what Jesus really ...meant! The thing which confuses me is whether Jesus told this in a mere ethical sense or ontological sense!!!! Anyway, personally, I don't want to become perfect as God, because what makes me what I am is the limitations that I am born with. In other way, I am happy in the way I am. So, there is no matter of "becoming" something even like God. On the other hand, realization of God (Truth) is entirely different scenario, where one experiences the Ultimate Being. Now, another interesting dimension of realization is that with this most desirable experience, every Yogi is instantly invited to the status of Perfection and to share the unlimited happiness with God and himself. In this sense, at the moment one gets spiritual enlightenment, he is uplifted to a higher self within himself where the barriers of the material world (space and time) are broken, making him in "perfect" communion with God. Now, I feel this may be what Jesus was also trying to say with his statement "Be perfect as your father in heaven". Possibly, Jesus was inviting all of us to enjoy the fruits of spiritual realization that ultimately gives path to perfection and happiness
Krishnan Kartha said, Baiju, " what makes you what you are ,are the limitations you are born with". So you are "made". "made" out of something which you are presently not.You have "become" baiju and the "being" was lost. Returning to the "BEing" is the spiritual journey. Here you are not becoming God or anything, but you are returning to your original identity.That is the oneness.Yoga.Satori. Meditation.Sayoojya etc etc.
I liked your sentence "every Yogi is instantly invited to the status of Perfection and to share the unlimited happiness with God and himself".That is true. That is an invitation.It is never claimed or desired by the yogi. It is a gift from ...the Nature.The Yogi may accept or reject it. The yogi is fond of playing as a simple human being instead of being the "God" like a father who will play with his son coming down to the age level of the son.
Baiju, I remembered Saibaba's words that "Being is lost in becoming" when yestreday we discussed about Jis's question on marking the cross on our body.The details of the discussion can be posted seperate
Return to Index on Topics under discussion with Krishnan Kartha
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